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02/22/2001
   Zonker:  -  The kind folks at the Rip Off Press forwarded your email to me.  I respect the energy that you are putting into your online UG Comix Guide,   but   I won't be helping you build it.  I am still working on an update to my  1981 GUIDE.  Any free time I have goes to that project                   -  Jay  Kennedy
     But  he  did  give  us  the  interview  posted  below.

02/28/2001
... my question to you is, do underground comix   collector's really care about whether it's a 3rd or 4th or 5th printing? i  can understand that they may want a 1st printing but after that is there that much concern over what printing?              -Ray
  Well,  obviously  I  care.  Collecting only 1st printings, mint, or slabbed comix is a game for rich guys or dealers.  I'm not a dealer or rich. If  my  only copy  isn't  a  1st  print,  which  printing  is  it? 
If we upgrade, most of us try to upgrade  with the earliest printings   we can find/afford. In the same way that most  'mainstream'   collectors try to upgrade with the best condition they can find/afford. Grades don't stop with just 'mint' and 'near mint' they go all the way down to 'poor' and 'shit'.  Since popular comix got reprinted, comix collectors look for earlier printings. 
Underground collectors need to be less concerned about condition than   mainstream collectors,  because fewer comix were originaly  bought   by people who would buy, bag, and file them  away  unread.
-  Zonker 
06/21/2001

Hey Zonker. I just came back from my first trip to San Francisco where I  attended the American Library Association conference. Lo and behold,  tucked away in a corner of the exhibit floor was Last  Gasp, which I knew about from my ex-husband's extensive underground comic collection. I made   chums with Kristine from Last Gasp and got a personal tour of the Last   Gasp warehouse along with a couple other rabblerousing/altpress library friends (kids in a candy store!!).  When I got back, I looked at the Last  Gasp site, and found a link to you, which led me to the Coverup Low Down  page. Somehow, I ended up with that, even though it was my husband's.  It   was one of my favorites, and, I think, my introduction to conspiracy   theory.  It's been a few years since I've run across it, but will have a  look for it this next week. 
                       -  rochelle
Cool  Rochelle,  i  hope  you  don't  mind  my  sharing   this  with  other  visiters.                   -  Zonker

11/25/2001
      hey! i have Zap Comics nummer 6 with 15c on the cover   do you need a scan?            -  Max     -   Germany
     The  scan  showed  this  to  be  the  standard  seventy-five  cent  cover.  Sevens  with  a  bar  tnrough  the  middle  are  common  in  Europe.  In  that  context  this  hand  drawn  75  looks  more  like  15.

12/20/2001
....I ran a coffeehouse in the early 1970's I ordered and sold many of these undergrounds then ...  ...The  print runs were low in some cases I know I used to buy them in bulk and  after   something became popular it seems the price went up or at least the distributor raised the price and often placed stickers on the original cover   price with a higher price... I am fairly certain that this was standard   practice  to get rid of the run before printing a new edition...                    -    Spencer       -  Philadelphia
     I'm pretty sure that was just inflation,  as even books that didn't sell well, got stickered.  Or, especially them, since they sat in the warehouse longer.   Back  in  March  '01  I  asked  Kathe  Todd  at  Rip  Off  Press  about  stickers.  She  Replied:
            Zonk,  during the  70's(as you'll recall if you're old enough) inflation was   going  insane. Sometimes we'd decide we had tosticker up the current printing  because its printedprice was way under the going rate, but most often  what   got stickered was the last two boxes at the old price after we'd   reprinted  them at a new, higher price. We actually ordered up a lot of stickers
custom  printed with the pricesin Gilbert's hand (before 1976 or so he used to  do   most of our ad art and a lot of hand lettering for covers, as well as  drawing the comix). May even still have some of those stickers in a box  somewhere, if they didn't get dumped in our last move.
     So far as I know, nobody but us was putting these "hand
lettered"-looking  stickers on comix. There may be comix out there that were stickered up by   the stores but if the sticker looks like it was custommade for the   comic  cover and it'sone of our publications,most likely we were the ones that putit on there. We still do it today, in fact,now that some titles are   on  theirway out of print for good. We discover a case of off-priced Fat  Freddy's Cats in the back of the warehouse and voila!
                                 -  Kathe





Zonker's credentials:
35 years as a printer. 
   (letterpress, small offset, pad-transfer, bindrey.)
33 years collecting undergrounds.


I  don't  know  this  lady, 
but  i'd  like  to.
I did Google search for an old high-school friend.
It turned up this lady with the same last name,
at Woodstock II
 Could be his daughter, for all I know.  :-(
 


 

Do  you  Buy?
Do  you  Sell?
No,  at  the  present  time  this  site  is  just  a  hobby. 
Do not send us want lists or for sale lists.
Where  can  i  find  a  copy  of.....   ?
First,  try  your  local  comic  store.  Especialy  if  the  staff  is  too  young  to  know  the  term  'head  comix'.   Look  in  the  dusty  corners  of  the  'adult'  section.
Last  Gasp   and Rip  Off  Press   are  still  in  business.
Then,  check  out  the  dealers  on  our  links  page.
Also  check   E-bay  about  once  a  week. It  may  take  a  few  months  till  the  one you  want  shows  up,  but  most  comix go  unbid  on.

What  is  the  value  of.....   ?
Is  there  a  price  guide?
The  best  Guide  is  20  years old.
So,  check  out  the  dealers  on  our links  page.
And  follow  the  bidding  on   E-bay

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Can  you  recommend  a  good  book  on  comix?

(1)   The Official Underground and Newave Comix Price-Guide
by Jay Kennedy.    Boatner Norton Press   1982
ISBN: 0-9606654-2-0 H 
ISBN: 0-9606654-3-9 S
ISBN: 0-517-54789-8 
Lib. o' Cong. cat. # 81-71170 

The prices are 20 years out of date.  But it's still the best.
Once or twice a month, a copy will sell on e-bay for $20-$50. 
They always get bought. 


I  want  to  help,
What  do  you  need?
Actually, we have stoped updating this guide.
Help these folks:
Head Comix.Info/Wiki
A collector created and edited Guide
to Underground Comix 1965-1985

Head Comix.Info/Forum
The Suport and debate forum for
Head Comix.Info/Wiki




02/22/2001    INTERVIEW  with  JAY  KENNEDY 
    (all  caps  is  how he  sent  it)
zh-  Are there enough of us comix collectors left, to make a  printed  update  to  your  1982  guide  profitable?
JK-    PROBABLY NOT THE FIRST YEAR, BUT ONCE ASSEMBLIED, IT WILL BE EASY TO  UPDATE ANNUALLY AND OVER TIME I HOPE TO BREAK EVEN.    THERE ARE MORE UNDERGROUND COMIX COLLECTORS THAN BEFORE, JUST FAR FEWER   "COMPLETISTS." 
   I PLAN TO MAKE EACH NEW ANNUAL ADDITION A MUST FOR COLLECTORS BY  ADDING A   SPECIAL SECTION EACH YEAR.  I PRETTY MUCH HAVE THE "UNDERGROUND COMIX
RELATED   POSTER" SECTION DONE FOR THE SECOND YEAR. TO BE FOLLOWED BY THE  "UNDERGROUND 
COMIC RELATED POSTCARD" SECTION THE NEXT. TO BE FOLLOWED BY THE  "UNDERGROUND   COMIX RELATED STICKERS AND TRANSFERS" SECTION THE NEXT. TO BE FOLLOWED BY   THE   "UNDERGROUND COMIX RELATED PINBACK BUTTONS" SECTION THE NEXT. WHEN I RUN
OUT   OF SPECIAL SECTIONS, I'LL CYCLE BACK THROUGH THEM BECAUSE BY THEN THERE  WILL   BE A NEED TO UPDATE THE SECTION.  IN THIS WAY I HOPE TO KEEP  PEOPLE BUYING  THE GUIDE YEAR AFTER YEAR. 

zh-   Or are you including the current crop of erotic comics?
JK-    NO, I DON'T THINK THIS IS BORN OF THE SAME NEED FOR SELF-EXPRESSION.  THEY ARE CREATED ALMOST PURELY FOR PROFIT.     FOR  INSTANCE, A COMIC BOOK LIKE "CHERRY" IS A PROBLEM.   IT STARTED   OUT   AS AN EXPRESSION OF THE CARTOONIST'S HUMOR BUT WAS CONTINUED AS AN  INCOME   PRODUCING JOB.  DO I LIST THE FIRST COUPLE OF "CHERRY" ISSUES AND NOT THE
REST? DO I LIST THEM ALL, OR DO I SKIP OVER ALL THE"CHERRY COMIC BOOKS?

zh-  So how far along, are you?    (Feb.  2001)
JK-   ALL THE DATA ON THE BOOKS HAS BEEN ENTERED INTO A MASSIVE, POWERFUL  AND   VERY FLEXIABLE DATABASE. I HAVE 20,000 ENTRIES,BUT THAT INCLUDES ITEMS  THAT   MERELY HAVE AN ILLUSTRATION BY AN UNDERGROUND CARTOONIST.  I NEED TO GO   THROUGH AND CHECK OFF WHICH ITEMS ARE TO BE INCLUDED IN THE GUIDE  AND   WHICH   AREN'T. I ALSO NEED  TO ENTER THE PRICES, AND THEN I AM LARGELY DONE. I  AM  NOT   A PROGRAMMER, BUT I HAVE LEARNED TO PROGRAM THE  ONE DATABASE I USE, SO I   CAN   NOW  SPIT OUT FORMATTED TEXT FOR EACH ENTRY ONCE THE ABOVE TWO STEPS ARE  DONE.

zh-   What  are  you  gonna  include?
JK-   LIKE THE FIRST GUIDE, I AM ONLY GOING TO LIST THOSE ITEMS THAT ARE 90%  COMIX WHICH ELIMINATES WELL OVER HALF THE ENTRIES IN MY DATABASE.  I WILL ONLY LIST THOSE THINGS THAT WERE  AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC AT ONE   POINT EITHER BY PURCHASE  OR BY BEING IN THE RIGHT PUBLIC PLACE AT THE   RIGHT   TIME. I WON'T LIST "MORSES FUNNIES" FOR EXAMPLE BECAUSE THAT WAS ONLY   GIVEN   OUT TO CLIENTS OF ALBERT MORSE.
I PLAN ON BRINGING THE GUIDE RIGHT UP  TO  THE MOMENT WITH, FOR EXAMPLE,  MOST OF THE FANTAGRAPHICS,  DRAWN & QUARTERLY COMIX AND MANY OF THE SLAVE
LABOR AND KITCHEN SINK BOOKS.

zh-   What  are  you  gonna  exclude?
JK-    MINI AND DIGEST SIZED SELF-PUBLISHED COMICS, EXCEPT FOR THE ORIGINAL  GARY   ARLINGTON ONES AND ONES DONE VERY EARLY ON BY  MAJOR UNDERGROUND
CARTOONISTS.    THE "NEWAVE" / "SMALL PRESS" FIELD IS A WHOLE NEW FIELD WORTHY OF ITS OWN   GUIDE BUT PROBABLY TOO LARGE A PHENOMENON TO CATALOG.

zh-  Did  ROP or Last Gasp offer to publish it, or just distribute?
JK-    THE COMICS BUYER'S GUIDE HAS OFFERED TO PUBLISH IT.  I CAN AFFORD TO  PUBLISH IT MYSELF THOUGH AND PROBABLY WILL, CUTTING DISTRIBUTION DEALS
WITH   PLACS LIKE LAST GASP, ROP, DIAMOND DISTRIBUTORS, ETC.

zh-  I hope you don't see our guide as detracting from your Update.  It's  meant   as a supplement. 
JK-    I SUPPOSE I AM OF MIXED EMOTIONS HERE.  I DID ALL THAT RESEARCH ON   PRINTING DISTINCTIONS, MAKING TRIPS TO THE PUBLISHERS EARLY ON, GOING  THROUGH 
THEIR PRINTING INVOICES, TRAVELING TO DOZENS OF COLLECTORS HOUSE TO  COMPARE   COPIES, WORKING 60 HOUR WEEKS FOR 14 MONTHS AND AT LEAST AN EQUAL AMOUNT  OF   TIME IN THE 20 YEARS SINCE. 
   IF SOMEONE ELSE DUPLICATES THE RESEARCH THEMSELVES, FINE.  WHEN IT IS  LIFTED FROM MY WORK, ESPECIALLY IN SIGNIFICANT SIZED CHUNKS, IT DOES
BOTHER   ME.  ONE PERSON PUBLISHED AN ENTIRE BOOK SIMPLY COPYING THE ARTIST CREDIT  INFORMATION FROM MY GUIDE.  THAT'S JUST THEFT TO ME AND I STARTED TO
SUE. WE   REACHED AN OUT OF COURT SETTLEMENT. HE EVEN COPIED MY MISTAKES WHICH MADE  IT   EASY TO ESTABLISH THAT HE HADN'T DONE INDEPENDENT RESEARCH.   YOU'RE NOT PROFITING OFF OF YOUR EFFORT AND I UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS A  LABOR   OF LOVE, SO IT DOESN'T PISS ME OFF, BUT I HOPE YOU WOULD TAKE IT DOWN IF   IT   GOT TO THE POINT THAT I FELT IT WAS HURTING MY ABILITY TO EARN BACK THE  MONEY 
I'VE SPENT  ON THE UNDERGROUND COMIX GUIDE.

zh-  Can i help?
JK-   ...(snip...stuff  about  scans)...
Just like the first guide, I don't plan on showing every comix.  Each year there are some standards that will always be shown, but I plan to picture a good percentage of covers, each year, that weren't shown in the previous year's guide.

 

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